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Revision as of 22:41, 20 March 2016
THIS IS A DRAFT. Carrie and Shawn are revising things.
N.B. Both the digraph system and the accented-character system are acceptable native orthographies, but it's bad form to mix systems within one text.
Consonants
b, d, f, h, j, k, l, m, n, p, r, s, t, v, w, z | as in English | |
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y | as in English when consonantal | |
g | always hard, as in English get | |
x | x as in axe, except z at beginning of words | |
q | Always part of a digraph "qu" for the cluster kw | |
c | Always "k" before a, o, u; always "s" before i, e | |
cz | č | ch as in church |
sz | š | sh as in shoe |
nz | ň | ny as in canyon |
dz | ð | "dh", or th as in that |
tz | þ | th as in think |
Vowels
Original | Proposed | IPA | Sound | Variation |
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a, e, i, o, u | as in romance languages | |||
ã (tãng, hãbby) |
/ʌ/ | hut | English "short U", not really close to /a/ at all | |
æ (ðæ, gæo) |
/aɪ̯/ | aye | Diphthong of /a/ + /i/ | |
å (plåx, schåft) |
/æ/ | hat | /a/ fronted and raised | |
ä (häm) |
/eɪ̯/ | hate (same as ê) | Diphthong of /e/ + /i/ | |
ê (dêm) |
/eɪ̯/ | hate (same as ä) | Diphthong of /e/ + /i/ | |
î (wîn, trîmfer) |
/ɛ̃/ | nasal "i" | Between /e/ and /a/ and nasalized | |
ö (cö [sic], miaö) |
/aʊ̯/ | out | Diphthong of /a/ + /u/ | |
õ (jõnt, drõt) |
/ɔɪ̯/ | boy | Diphthong of /o/ + /i/ | |
ø (kønig, før) |
/œ/ | German Göttin | Between /e/ and /a/, rounded | |
ô (mäjordôm) |
/o̞ʊ̯/ | boat | Long /o/, or diphthong of /o/ + /u/ | |
ü (fü, küssen) |
/y/ | German müssen | Rounded /i/ | |
û (ûnçivilan) |
/œ̃/ | nasal "u" | Between /e/ and /a/, rounded and nasalized |
Diacritics used in vowels and their roles
Diacritic | Uses |
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Tilde |
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Ring |
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Aesch |
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Umlaut |
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Slash |
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Circumflex |
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Carrie and Shawn discussion, 20 March 5:15pm
Points:
- Eliminate the sound û, replacing it in the negative prefix with ã.
- Eliminate the sound î, replacing it with å or i per root.
- Respell ê with ä in all places.
- Eliminate ô, respelling as o. Native English speakers are going to diphthong long Os whether we like it or not.
- We now have this list of weird ones:
- ã
- ä
- å
- æ
- ø
- õ
- ö
- ü
- Now, ä and ü match their German counterparts. Tri ø matches German ö; Tri ö is the only u-diphthong on this list, so let's swap the glyphs ø and ö, so now all three of ä ö ü match the German ones, and ø (the only slashed letter) is unique as the only u-diphthong.
- These remain:
- ã
- å
- æ
- ø (in case we come up with some other way to write it)
- õ
Chat resumed
- Ways to spell the /æ/ sound, as in "cat" or "hat" in languages using Latin letters: Most commonly by far are < a >, < ae > or < æ >, or < ä >.
- The reasonable options for that sound, given that < ä > is used already, are: ring (å), breve (ă), circumflex (â), or aesch (æ).
- A-ring has the virtue of being the only letter in European languages which uses the ring diacritic, and so it's kinda unique; furthermore, it has Triparik historic warrant. So let's keep it for now.
- These remain:
- ã
- æ
- ø (in case we come up with some other way to write it)
- õ
- If we like the three umlaut vowels because German, why wouldn't we like æ because Latin? Then these remain:
- ã
- ø (in case we come up with some other way to write it)
- õ