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'''Her (fem acc):''' Romance is almost entirely '''la'''. Cased Germanic is '''si''', which ''matches'' the nominatives, contrasting with the masculines. | '''Her (fem acc):''' Romance is almost entirely '''la'''. Cased Germanic is '''si''', which ''matches'' the nominatives, contrasting with the masculines. | ||
'''Him (masc oblique/dative):''' Germanic '''hVm''' | '''Him (masc oblique/dative):''' Oblique Germanic '''hVm''', Romance '''lV''' (front vowels). | ||
'''Her (fem oblique/dative):''' Germanic '''hVr''' | '''Her (fem oblique/dative):''' Oblique Germanic '''hVr''', Romance '''lV''' (front vowels). | ||
Only two of the selected Romance languages distinguish ''gender'' in the dative, so call those outliers. | |||
The differences between Romance nominative and stressed versions, in 3S, are insignificant, so we can ignore the stressed series. | |||
== Sources == | == Sources == |
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Summary of 3S pronouns
The languages are in three broad groups: Romance, Cased Germanic, Oblique Germanic. The Germanic representatives are those which distinguish accusative and dative (German, Luxembourgish) and those which have a single oblique case (English, Dutch, Afrikaans, Swedish, Danish, Plautdietsch). In the two which distinguish, the dative versions rather than the accusatives are the ones which more closely match the oblique relatives.
There's an outlier or two in each group, but here's the big patterns:
He (masc nom): Romance il, el, Germanic hV(n). (One outlier here is of note, German itself, which is er. Even Luxembourgish fits the bigger pattern.)
She (fem nom): Romance ela, Germanic SV (where S is one of the sibilants s, z, sh).
Him (masc acc): Romance varies more here, lV or V(l). Cased Germanic Vn (front vowels), differing from the nominatives.
Her (fem acc): Romance is almost entirely la. Cased Germanic is si, which matches the nominatives, contrasting with the masculines.
Him (masc oblique/dative): Oblique Germanic hVm, Romance lV (front vowels).
Her (fem oblique/dative): Oblique Germanic hVr, Romance lV (front vowels).
Only two of the selected Romance languages distinguish gender in the dative, so call those outliers.
The differences between Romance nominative and stressed versions, in 3S, are insignificant, so we can ignore the stressed series.
Sources
Latin and Iberian Peninsula
Latin | Portuguese (Galician) | Spanish (Catalan) | ||||||||||||
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Nom. | Stressed. | Acc. | Dat. | Nom. | Stressed. | Acc. | Dat. | Nom. | Stressed. | Acc. | Dat. | |||
I | égo | me/míhi | me | míhi/me | eu | mim (min) | me | me | yo (jo) | mí | me | me | ||
you (sing.) | tu | te/tíbi | te | tíbi/te | tu | ti | te | te (che) | tú | ti | te | te | ||
he | ílle | íllum | íllum | ílli/illíus | ele | ele (el) | o | lhe (lle) | él (ell) | él (ell) | lo | le (li) | ||
she | ílla | íllam | íllam | ílli/illíus | ela | ela | a | lhe (lle) | ella | ella | la | le (li) | ||
him/herself | - | se/síbi | se | síbi/se | - | si | se | se | - | sí | se | se | ||
we | nos | nos | nos | nos | nós (nosoutros) |
nós | nos | nos | nosotros (nosaltres) |
nosotros (nosaltres) |
nos | nos | ||
all of you | vos | vos | vos | vos | vós (vosoutros) |
vós | vos | vos | vosotros (vosaltres) |
vosotros (vosaltres) |
os (vos) | os (vos) | ||
they | íllos | íllos | íllos | íllis /illórum |
eles | eles | os | lhes (lles) | ellos (ells) | ellos (ells) | los | les (lis) | ||
they (all fem.) | íllas | íllas | íllas | íllis /illárum |
elas | elas | as | lhes (lles) | ellas (elles) | ellas (elles) | las (les) | les (lis) | ||
theselves | - | se/síbi | se | síbi/se | - | si | se | se | - | sí | se | se |
Occitan, French, Rhaeto-Romance
Occitan | French | Rhaeto-Romansh | ||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Nom | Stressed | Acc | Dat | Nom | Stressed | Acc | Dat | Nom | Stressed | Acc | Dat | |||
I | ieu | ieu | me | me | je | moi | me | me | jau | mai | ma | ma | ||
you (sing.) | tu | tu | te | te | tu | toi | te | te | ti | tai | ta | ta | ||
he | el | el | lo | li | il | lui | le | lui | el | el | al | al | ||
she | ela | ela | la | li | elle | elle | la | lui | ela | ella | la | la | ||
him/herself | - | se | se | se | - | soi | se | se | - | sai | sa | sa | ||
we | nosautres | nosautres | nos | nos | nous | nous | nous | nous | nus | nus | ans | ans | ||
all of you | vosautres | vosautres | vos | vos | vous | vous | vous | vous | vus | vus | as | as | ||
they | eles | eles | los | lor | ils | eux | les | leur | els | els | als | als | ||
they (all fem.) | elas | elas | las | lor | elles | elles | les | leur | elas | ellas | las | las | ||
theselves | - | se | se | se | - | soi | se | se | - | sai | sa | sa |
Sardinian, Italian, Romanian
Sardinian | Italian | Romanian | ||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Nom | Stressed | Acc | Dat | Nom | Stressed | Acc | Dat | Nom | Stressed | Acc | Dat | |||
I | deo | a mie | mi | mi | io | me | mi | mi | eu | mine | mă | îmi | ||
you (sing.) | tue | a tie | ti | ti | tu | te | ti | ti | tu | tine | te | îți | ||
he | isse | issu | lu | li | lui | lui | lo | gli | el | el | îl | îi | ||
she | issa | issa | la | li | lei | lei | la | le | ea | ea | o | îi | ||
him/herself | - | se | si | si | - | se | si | si | - | sine | se | își | ||
we | nois | nois | nos | nos | noi | noi | ci | ci | noi | noi | ne | ne | ||
all of you | vois | vois | vos | vos | voi | voi | vi | vi | voi | voi | vă | vă | ||
they | issos | issos | los | lis | loro | loro | li | loro | ei | ei | îi | le | ||
they (all fem.) | issas | issas | las | lis | loro | loro | le | loro | ele | ele | le | le | ||
themselves | - | se | si | si | - | se | si | si | - | sine | se | își |
German, Dutch, Afrikaans
German | Dutch | Afrikaans | ||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Nom | Acc | Dat | Reflexive | Nom | Oblique | Ref | Nom | Oblique | Ref | |||
I | ich | mich | mir | mich / mir | ik ('k) | mij (me) | mij (me) | ek | my | my | ||
you (sing, inf) | du | dich | dir | dich / dir | jij (je) | jou (je) | jou (je) | jy | jou | jou | ||
you (sing, for) | Sie | Sie | Ihnen | sich | u | u | u / zich | u | u | u | ||
he | er | ihn | ihm | sich | hij (ie) | hem ('m) | zich | hy | hom | hom | ||
she | sie | sie | ihr | sich | zij (ze) | haar (d'r/'r) | zich | sy | haar | haar | ||
it (masc / common) | er | es | ihm | - | hij (ie) | het ('t) | - | dit | dit | - | ||
it (fem / common) | sie | - | - | - | zij (ze) | - | - | dit | - | - | ||
it (neuter) | es | - | - | - | het ('t) | - | - | dit | - | - | ||
one | man | - | - | - | men | - | - | mens | - | - | ||
we | wir | uns | uns | uns | wij (we) | ons | ons | ons | ons | ons | ||
you (plur, inf) | ihr | euch | euch | euch | jullie | jullie (je) | jullie (je) | julle | julle | julle | ||
you (plur, for) | Sie | Sie | Ihnen | sich | u | u | u / zich | u | u | u | ||
they | sie | sie | ihnen | sich | zij (ze) | hen (ze) | zich | hulle | hulle | hulle |
Swedish, Danish, Luxembourgish
Swedish | Danish | Luxembourgish | ||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Nom | Oblique | Ref | Nom | Obl | Ref | Nom | Acc | Dat | Ref | |||
I | jag | mig (mej) | mig | jeg | mig | mig | ech | mech | mir | mech | ||
you (sing, inf) | du | dig (dej) | dig | du | dig | dig | du | dech | dir | dech | ||
you (sing, for) | ni | er | sig | De | Dem | - | Dir | Iech | Iech | Iech | ||
he | han | honom | sig | han | ham | sig | hien | en | him | sech | ||
she | hon | henne | sig | hun | hende | sig | si | si | hir | sech | ||
it (masc / common) | den | den / det | - | den | den / det | sig | - | - | - | - | ||
it (fem / common) | den | - | - | den | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||
it (neuter) | det | - | - | det | - | - | et | et | him | sech | ||
one | man | - | - | man | - | - | ||||||
we | vi | oss | oss | vi | os | os | mir | eis | eis | eis | ||
you (plur, inf) | ni | er | er | I | jer | jer | dir | iech | iech | iech | ||
you (plur, for) | Ni | Er | er | De | Dem | - | - | - | - | - | ||
they | de (dom) | dem (dom) | sig | de | dem | sig | si | si | hinnen | sech |
Plautdietsch
Spoken by Mennonite communities in Canada and Latin America.
Singular | Plural | |||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Person | 1st | 2d | 3d masc | 3d fem | 3d nt | 1st | 2d | 3d |
Nominative | ekj | du | hee | see | daut (et) | wie | jie | dee, see |
Oblique | mie | die | am | ar (äa) | ons | junt (ju) | an (äant) | |
Reflexive | sikj | sikj |
Personal Pronouns
Nominative | Objective | Possessive | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
1. Sing. | ego | me | me | |
2. Sing. | ðŏ | ði | ðæ | |
3. Sing. | Masculine | erre | ri | ris |
Feminine | esse | szi | szir | |
Epicene | ex | ex | exes | |
Neuter | id | id | ids | |
1. Plur. | nø | nos | ŏr | |
2. Plur. | vø | vos | vor | |
3. Plur. | eng | enge | engs |
These are all up for debate.
Other Pronouns
The reflexive pronoun is selb, plural selbs. It may be used as nominative, for emphasis, or as objective, for reflexiveness:
Der König Selb ist hir! "The King Himself is here!"
Eng libe selbs plä. "They love themselves most."
The relative pronoun is velk:
Der mensch, velk esse libe, kenne ri. "The man whom she loves knows him."
Der mensch, velk libe schi, kenne ri. "The man who loves her knows him."
These are also up for debate.